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Leandro Salazar Aeon Industries	Posted - 2008.01.27 14:47:00 - [1] Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 27/01/2008 14:48:14 Originally by: Ekuwy Oizoa Originally by: StonedBoy Originally by: Helen Plenty of ingame methods for dealing with nano gangs. MWD use on 99% of ships in pvp does need looking at though but I'd argue thats an entirely different topic near enough. false : only way to fight nanogangs is to use nanogangs Now i think you should speak less. Never seen 3 nano-hacs/recons kill a clever bs pilot before. 2* heavy neut, bit of manuvring, active tanking your bs instead of fitting 3* trimark rig and 3* 1600mm rolled thungsten tends to help aswell. The problem with nano**** isn't that they can kill everything, but that they can hardly be killed by anything... (unless they are stupid enough not to run when they see a Huginn/Rapier). Plus I am fairly sure a halfway competent nanogang will have any lone BS for breakfast, seeing how it should not even be able to lock them... There is no 'n' in turret There is no 'r' in faction There is no 'a' in Scorpion There is no 'e' in Caldari There is no makeup in rogue drones
Leandro Salazar Aeon Industries	Posted - 2008.01.27 15:16:00 - [2] Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 27/01/2008 15:20:08 Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 27/01/2008 15:16:43 Originally by: Ekuwy Oizoa Originally by: Leandro Salazar Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 27/01/2008 14:48:14 Originally by: Ekuwy Oizoa Now i think you should speak less. Never seen 3 nano-hacs/recons kill a clever bs pilot before. 2* heavy neut, bit of manuvring, active tanking your bs instead of fitting 3* trimark rig and 3* 1600mm rolled thungsten tends to help aswell. The problem with nano**** isn't that they can kill everything, but that they can hardly be killed by anything... (unless they are stupid enough not to run when they see a Huginn/Rapier). Plus I am fairly sure a halfway competent nanogang will have any lone BS for breakfast, seeing how it should not even be able to lock them... Oooh, so now its the fault of the nano gang that a lone bs cannot lock them down. Hello! If 1 falcon shows up, it cannot kill it either. And where was I complaining about it? I was just making a statement since someone else stated that a BS CAN hold its own vs. nanogangs, which it definitely cannot unless the nanogang sucks. Sure a lone BS shouldn't be able to fight a nanogang, but they should still be way more killable than they are currently. And all the smartasses talking about oh so many ways to kill them and a brain helping are probably just afraid that they might lose their almost untouchable pwnmobiles that allow for their favorite pastime: risk free ganks. The only real counter (excluding other nanos, which only adds to the problem) are Rapiers and Huginns, and 90% of the time nanos just avoid contact when those are around. Sure occasionally nanos die, but all in all the nano makes PvP terribly boring for those hunting a nanogang. It is not even so much about losing to nanos, it is about most of the time there not being a point to even try to fight them. Going down in a hopeless fight while tearing chunks out of the enemy to at least hurt him a little is fine and fun. Going down with only a very very remote chance to hurt him at all is not. Not that I expect any of the nanofighters to understand that, most of them prolly don't consider the combat to be fun, but just the feeling of making someone else hurt while being impervious to harm themselves... There is no 'n' in turret There is no 'r' in faction There is no 'a' in Scorpion There is no 'e' in Caldari There is no makeup in rogue drones
Leandro Salazar Aeon Industries	Posted - 2008.01.27 17:11:00 - [3] Main issue with Rapier/Huginn being the best counter is that they are so obvious that nanogangs just avoid them. Now if there was a mod (or mod combination) that could be fitted on any ship and reliably spoiled a nanofags day, things would be very different... There is no 'n' in turret There is no 'r' in faction There is no 'a' in Scorpion There is no 'e' in Caldari There is no makeup in rogue drones
Leandro Salazar Aeon Industries	Posted - 2008.01.27 18:15:00 - [4] Originally by: Grimpak that's how I managed to kill a 8km/sec stilleto in my 3km/sec taranis. Sure it took 2 hours to get that damn kill, but in the end it was much more worthwhile, because it proved my point that when we talk about speed, you need brains to know how to engage the guy. Brains and perseverance. I am sure it is fine and possibly even exciting to spend that time and perseverance on one kill. If you need it for every single damn pilot that roams 0.0, something it very wrong imho. There is no 'n' in turret There is no 'r' in faction There is no 'a' in Scorpion There is no 'e' in Caldari There is no makeup in rogue drones

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